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Greg Stock: There’s opportunity in semi-government bonds, but investors must be choosy

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Not all state government debt is the same and the ballooning of debt in some states is increasing risk in credit markets, warns Perpetual’s Greg Stock. 

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Governments have continued to take on significantly increased debt levels post-Covid, but they’ve been slow to repair their increased structural budget deficits.

That’s according to senior portfolio manager Greg Stock, who also leads credit research for Perpetual’s credit and fixed income team.

“They have continued to spend – and it’s beginning to catch up with them,” he says.

“It’s been happening here, in Great Britain, in America, in Canada, all around the world.”

State governments have not been immune to the trend, and that has triggered greater risks for investors in semi-government bonds.

“Interest rates remain elevated and while inflation has come down, we haven’t seen much rate relief,” Stock continues.

“Recently we’ve seen a downgrade of state governments by ratings agencies, notably Victoria and Queensland.

“There’s now more risk in semi-government bonds than previously.

“They are now cheaper (higher relative yields reflecting increased risk), so you could argue they’re better value.

“While risks of default are low, there is growing ratings migration risk and liquidity risk.”

Passive funds may feature issuers with higher debt

It is slightly perverse, but the weaker an issuer’s debt profile, the more debt it likely has outstanding, meaning it becomes a bigger part of the composite bond index, Stock says.

“If you are a passive investor, you are more exposed to an issuer that issues more debt. And by and large, an issuer that has more and more debt is not what investors want. In the case of state government component of the index, it has increased substantially.”

Stock says currently the federal government comprises almost half of the composite bond index in Australia, and states are approximately one-third.

The critical point is that investors manage risk in their bond portfolios.

The index is not an investment strategy, as Greg has proven with an outstanding top quartile 15-year track record of outperforming the index by seeking a well-diversified portfolio of credit securities.

“If you hadn’t managed risks in a bond portfolio, you would potentially be overweight certain semi government bonds whose credit risk was deteriorating, as was their relative price.”

Stock has positioned his fund more conservatively when it comes to state debt, with exposure to the stronger performing states of New South Wales and Western Australia, and reduced or no exposure to Queensland and Victoria.

He prefers to seek better income opportunities in high-quality corporate and asset-backed securities to generate more income while maintaining a higher quality credit profile than potentially some of the state government bonds.

“Those last two states are struggling with their debt profiles, there is a risk their ratings could go down further.

“Investors are well served in bonds to be risk aware in their portfolios to achieve strong risk adjusted returns.”

Looking ahead, Stock notes that yields are rising for state government bonds, which means potential opportunities to earn higher returns in the future.

“Australian bonds overall should be a great investment over the next five-to-ten -year timeframe.

“If you can earn 5-6% income with low risk, it's a good outcome for any portfolio.”


About Perpetual’s Credit and Fixed Income team

Perpetual offers a range of cash, credit and fixed-income solutions and are specialists in investing in quality debt.

We take a highly active approach to buying and selling credit and fixed income securities and invest extensively across industries, maturities and the capital structure.

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Greg Stock
Head of Credit Research, Senior Portfolio Manager
BCom (Acc & Fin), ICAA, SIA, AFMA
Greg Stock
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Greg Stock

Head of Credit Research, Senior Portfolio Manager BCom (Acc & Fin), ICAA, SIA, AFMA
Bio

Years of experience: 32

Years at Perpetual: 20

Greg has over 30 years experience in investment management, accounting and risk management. He has researched and analysed credit markets on both the buy side and sell side for over a decade and through multiple cycle. His research role is broad, he covers the bank and financial sector and is a credit signatory.  Greg is also a senior portfolio manager responsible for trade execution and portfolio construction for Perpetual's bond fund, absolute return fixed interest fund and exact market cash funds.

Prior to working at Perpetual, Greg had a similar research and portfolio management role at Macquarie Funds Management. And while at Macquarie Bank for over six years he had roles in debt markets research, risk and accounting. Earlier, Greg worked at PriceWaterhouseCoopers as a chartered accountant over six years.

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